"Is this red monkey form of yours really your strongest?"
"Can't you measure our power levels?"
Son Goku and Super 17 sized each other up. Super 17 had no *ki*, making it impossible to gauge his opponent's exact strength through sensing. However, judging by Son Goku's performance—given that Vegeta and Uub, two powerhouses easily on par with Super Saiyan 3, could have secured a victory together—Super 17 knew his own power surpassed Super Saiyan 3. As for whether he could match Super Saiyan 4, a fight would tell.
Chapter 189